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[ulao]

why do we drive on parkways and.. park on drive ways?

[Koss]

Because we are imperfect

[ulao]

Amusing "we" being human as opposed to "we" being QuickPlay users and if perfect is a complete example of its kind, without defects, then we are left without a paragon sample to compare to. If a human is defined as characteristic of humanity; "human nature" then we still have a lack of what is perfect, thus perfection is non existence. What does this say for humanity...

[Koss]

"perfection is non existence"= God

[DesertDrifter]

Actually, because someone said we had to - the reason why the world is moving backwards instead of moving forward. People chose to follow others to only end up in the same rut... Once thought there was a saying " history is to be learned from and not repeated - like mistakes are pebbles that make a good road " - but apparently evitable...

Edited by DesertDrifter, 22 December 2008 - 12:10 AM.

[ulao]

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"perfection is non existence"= God

perfection is non existence (perfection does not exist) there for just" non existing".


a = b, thus
b = a

God = "non existing".

Not trying to upset the religions community, just a play on words..

So if perfect is a complete example of its kind, God can not be considered human as to be human you must be known ( exist ).

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People chose to follow others to only end up in the same rut

Hence music... I wish I had a Delorean... 88 mph...ife was good then..

[DesertDrifter]

ulao said:

Hence music... I wish I had a Delorean... 88 mph...ife was good then..

I hear ya, music hasn't been the same since from the 70s to the late 80s. Pretty much garbage these days...

BTW - your blast from the past: ( http://www.wilddamntexan.com/kids/demotiva...etravel_600.jpg )

Makes me wish I still had my chopper ( http://www.highway-choppers.com/1973_FX_Ha...n_For_Sale1.jpg ) - looked just like it...

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...perfection...

Free-will stands in the way of perfection... As long as one can make their own decisions, there will always be mistakes...

Doesn't have nothing to do with God, just paths set before us to learn from and to correct the next time around...

Edited by DesertDrifter, 22 December 2008 - 01:03 AM.

[ulao]

DesertDrifter, on Dec 22 2008, 12:57 AM, said:

As long as one can make their own decisions, there will always be mistakes...

- So if a person decides, he ceases to be perfect?

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Doesn't have nothing to do with God, just paths set before us to learn from and to correct the next time around...

If we must make corrections we must make a decision. If making a decision renders us imperfect, we must ovoid corrections. Therefor we have established once again no path to perfection implying it does not exist.

[DesertDrifter]

ulao said:

- So if a person decides, he ceases to be perfect?

Decisions are bias, not predicted - therefore: never perfect. There's a flaw no matter what circumstance, as what works for one may not work for others...

ulao said:

If we must make corrections we must make a decision. If making a decision renders us imperfect, we must ovoid corrections. Therefor we have established once again no path to perfection implying it does not exist.

What I am saying, is perfection is like a sci-fi novel, it's based on dreams and beliefs, but never reality... Basically: perfection does not exist.

Edited by DesertDrifter, 22 December 2008 - 05:51 PM.

[ulao]

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What I am saying, is perfection is like a sci-fi novel, it's based on dreams and beliefs, but never reality... Basically: perfection does not exist.

- So what your saying is what I'm saying. And all was wasted said. This certainly does show a lack of perfection.

If we have concluded that perfect is not practical or non-existent in the case of humans and we know that perfection is a complete example of its kind without defects. We can easily conclude no complete humans without defects exist.. In so that there are no more perfect humans...

Interesting study was once conducted... A composite of all female faces in a given race were merged.. Then an unbiased study was preformed to ask what they though of this face. The yielded results showed this face was the most beautiful and perfect face they ever saw. Thus implying the average human is what we find most appealing.

Wonder.... If perfection does not exist in a single form.. Could it exist in theory... as a whole of what we all are.. The sum of all human flaws and strengths divided by the sum its self... A perfect human that can not exist in a single form, but exists in all of us.. Or simply put what some of us refer to as God.

[DesertDrifter]

ulao said:

- So what your saying is what I'm saying. And all was wasted said. This certainly does show a lack of perfection.

Exactly...

By the way:

ulao said:

there are no more perfect humans.

to

ulao said:

there are no perfect humans.

Even Jesus wasn't perfect, he bled just like the rest of us... but only thing different: he was a determined follower - whom took everything into perspective...

Edited by DesertDrifter, 22 December 2008 - 06:29 PM.

[DesertDrifter]

ulao said:

Wonder.... If perfection does not exist in a single form.. Could it exist in theory... as a whole of what we all are.. The sum of all human flaws and strengths divided by the sum its self... A perfect human that can not exist in a single form, but exists in all of us.. Or simply put what some of us refer to as God.

Like I said: perfection can only exist within an individual (as so "they" think), but not so with others. This would be called "opinion", therefore rules out perfection within more then one person (unless they can't think for themselves)... Either way you look at it: perfection is a fantasy...

We're talking for our heath here pal...

Edited by DesertDrifter, 22 December 2008 - 06:57 PM.

[ulao]

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Even Jesus wasn't perfect, he bled just like the rest of us... but only thing different: he was a determined follower - whom took everything into perspective...

- No one suggested he was..

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Like I said: perfection can only exist within an individual (as so "they" think), but not so with others. This would be called "opinion", therefore rules out perfection within more then one person (unless they can't think for themselves)... Either way you look at it: perfection is a fantasy...

- but not by definition. By definition Perfection must exists as a comparison to its kind.

[EvilHimself]

Perfection=Beethoven's 9th Symphony

the rest is bullshit

[ulao]

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the rest is bullshit

Actually Bullshit is a very good example of perfection. Remembering of course, perfection is limited to it's own kind and a bull producing rater large and smelly substance. I think the only competitor would be elephant dung. I do belived Bulls Shit is near perfection.

Oh and "Beethoven's 9th Symphony" is definitely music perfection.

[DesertDrifter]

ulao said:

- No one suggested he was..

Just making reference to a man "with no sin". He was Human just like the rest of us, even he got pissed and flipped some tabels (though getting angry for a good cause doesn't make you a bad person either)...

ulao said:

- but not by definition. By definition Perfection must exists as a comparison to its kind.

Definition can only define so much, basically just laying out print, but leaving out "opinion"...

ulao said:

perfection is limited to it's own kind and a bull producing rater large and smelly substance. I think the only competitor would be elephant dung.

A thing "we" have back home: ( http://www.worldslargestthings.com/eastern...ySubheader2.jpg ) LOL

Edited by DesertDrifter, 24 December 2008 - 03:19 PM.

[ulao]

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Definition can only define so much

But by design it is what describes the subject. You can add to a definition but never subtract from it. If you redefine something, your definition must not contradict the original.

[Koss]

ulao, on Dec 22 2008, 12:38 AM, said:

a = b, thus
b = a

God = "non existing".

Not trying to upset the religions community, just a play on words..

Lol thats what I was getting at

[ulao]

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Lol thats what I was getting at tongue.gif

- then consider it clarification.

[DesertDrifter]

ulao said:

DesertDrifter said:

Definition can only define so much

But by design it is what describes the subject. You can add to a definition but never subtract from it. If you redefine something, your definition must not contradict the original.

No argument there...

Lets pick the definition apart here:

DICTIONARY said:

*perfection

noun
1. the state of being without a flaw or defect

therefore: cannot exist without opposition - otherwise would be easily achieved. Basically just a "state" of "mind".

Here's an interesting article that picks "perfection" apart upon the software world: ( http://www.inter-sections.net/2008/05/19/p...-does-not-exist )

All I gots to say pal.

Edited by DesertDrifter, 26 December 2008 - 04:12 PM.